[Apparently SOLVED- see followup posts]

Yesterday, a strange and alarming thing happened to me while running the just-released Tails 0.14. I was working with Nautilus, organizing files on a LUKS volume, while Iceweasel was loading a graphic-heavy web page. All of a sudden, my screen went completely black, with nothing but a flashing bar-cursor. This lasted for several seconds, after which the round, spinning cursor, followed by the "Tails Greeter" appeared. Tails then completed the booting process (seemingly as normal), which itself is odd to me-- considering that there was no boot-medium present: I had removed the USB stick right after I had initially booted, since I had used the toram option.

If I had merely run out of RAM, wouldn't TAILS simply freeze? How could it just automatically, spontaneously reboot like that-- especially when there was no boot-medium present?!

Let me note the following:

  • the computer this happened with has 2 GB of RAM

  • This was my first time using the toram option at boot

  • After experiencing the spontaneous reboot that I described above, I manually rebooted from scratch (again using the toram option) and did not experience anything unusual.

Might the seemingly spontaneous reboot that I experienced have been the result of a remote intrusion?

Not sure if I have faulty hardware, but since using 0.14rc2 I've found a USB install spontaniously shutting down for no reason. I've replaced the USB drive, or alternatively it could possibly be moving the laptop around (but if that is the case I can't at this moment nail down exactly what is causing it - and it is odd it should only start to occur with 0.14).
Comment by Anonymous Wed 14 Nov 2012 12:37:47 PM CET

If, as I suspect, I had merely run out of RAM, wouldn't TAILS simply freeze? How could it just automatically, spontaenously reboot like that-- especially when there was no boot-medium present?!

Are you confusing a full reboot with restarting your X session?

Let me note the following: - the computer this happened with has 2 GB of RAM

That's not much to play with - the ISO alone will eat almost half of it!

*This was my first time using the toram option at boot

"toram" is "not supported" by the developers :o(

*I rebooted from scratch immediately afterward, again using the toram option, without incident.

Might what I exprienced have been the result of a remote intrusion?

Might I suppose. It might have been a martian hiding in your system case and prodding things too. ;o)

Sounds to me like something killed your X session... Some ideas of what that "something" might have been, in what I'd consider to be roughly descending order of probability:

  • User error ;o)

  • Linux - intentionally - after running out of memory

  • Duff drivers (esp. video)

  • Overheating CPU

  • Loose electrical connection

  • Faulty RAM

  • Other assorted hardware faults

  • Other assorted software faults

  • Power surge

  • EM interference

  • Cosmic ray (yes, can happen!)

  • Bored martians

  • Angry mermaids

  • Other assorted mythological beasties

  • Intrusion

Comment by Anonymous Wed 14 Nov 2012 12:40:18 PM CET

Ah! Comment 1 hadn't landed when I started comment 2...

ONLY happening with Tails >0.14~rc2? ..if so report a bug!

Otherwise, if it's sometimes happening in other OSs, move hardware faults up the list ;o)

Comment by Anonymous Wed 14 Nov 2012 12:46:42 PM CET

Are you confusing a full reboot with restarting your X session?

I suspect I was indeed doing just that, now that you ask.

"toram" is "not supported" by the developers :o(

I hadn't realized that.

I take it that "not supported" means that you're completely on your own should you decide to try it.

It might have been a martian hiding in your system case and prodding things too. ;o)

A nano-Martian?

Did you really mean to place the possibility of intrusion below that of the four "possibilities" above-- even the three science fiction contingencies?

User error ;o)

I suppose it's possible that I inadvertantly activated the keyboard shortcut for restarting X (though that seems unlikely, given that, If I recall correctly, it requires three separate keys to be pressed at once.

Linux - intentionally - after running out of memory

I hadn't realized this was a possibility; as I had written, I had thought that running out of RAM would have resulted in a freeze.

the computer this happened with has 2 GB of RAM

That's not much to play with - the ISO alone will eat almost half of it!

Yes but that still leaves 1 GB, which is the recommended minimum for running Tails.

Nonetheless, I probably was trying to do too much for what I had.

Regarding the other possibilities you listed, most would seem highly unlikely to me-- based on what I know of the conditions at the time of the occurrence and my extensive history with the same hardware, etc.

I haven't run memtest for a while, though, so perhaps I should now.

Thank you very much for the detailed reply.

Comment by Anonymous Wed 14 Nov 2012 04:52:45 PM CET

This thread seems like a case-in-point supporting the argument made in the the thread, ?Bug Reporting

As a direct result of posting to the forum and not filing an official bug report:

  • OP's question was promptly solved by one or more helpful anons

  • The Tails devs were spared time and trouble

  • Others with the same or similar experiences could benefit from merely reading the thread

Comment by Anonymous Wed 29 May 2013 12:19:35 AM CEST